More articles now show clearly a pattern of false , and changing statements issued by ebaY, only pointing towards more unanswered questions and more the need to have this episode investigated by the Law or Government.





First off, from PC Mag, we find the following:

EBay on Tuesday admitted that a "bug" in its system had accidentally placed listings from eBay-owned shopping.com onto eBay.com late Friday night.

 Wrong! ebay is wrong. I found and preserved "mystery Listings on 02-29-2008 at 01:47AM. PTD as shown is this screencapture, of 'mystery listings from sdc_prod_9021_2 ( 0 ), AKA Buy.com (the one seen in the video) which I originally posted here on the CAPP forum.
Note the time stamp on the screencapture, and also the length of time shown as the item(s) having been listed/time remaining. If those were 30 day listings, they had been active for somewhere around 10 hrs. Whatever, do the math, that is still before Friday. I still have a large amount of screencaptures left to go through, I suspect that some will be found which were listed even earlier by some of the mystery listing sellers

*updated: Here we see on March 7th, at 17:36 PTD, we see 'seller' sdc_Prod_434012  (o) with 55 items still on the site. They all come back as 'invalid' but note the dates listed here with the 'newly listed' sort prefs selected. What was that date they claimed the test or glitch  began?
eBay_Seller_sdc_prod_434012_items_listed_on_Feb26th_on_eBay_480.png

The bug was related to the gallery feature that allows users to place a small photo of their item on the initial search returns page, a spokesman said. EBay traditionally charged 35 cents to include a gallery photo, but as part of the policy changes that went into effect February 20, they are now free of charge.

However, "the code actually rolled out three hours late, so there were a certain number of listings ... that didn't get gallery free, so we were going back and fixing that" on Friday, the spokesman said. "What happened was, when we wrote the code to implement that fix in the database table, there was a string that was left on there that populated and sent shopping.com listings onto ebay.com that it shouldn't have."

This statement is pure distractive disambiguation. It overlooks the obvious facts. IMO, Pure unbelievable hogwash, purposefully designed to cast attention away from the obvious. Why would all these items be queued to be listed on ebay in the first place?

Approximately 5,000 listings were pulled from shopping.com, but they have since been removed, according to eBay.

Again,  this is an outright falsehood by ebay and could not be much further from the truth. Each and every seller nearly had more than 5K listings. There are examples everywhere. Need I say more?

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The listings even made it all the way to google's cache. Here is a screencapture of one such example, from the ebay Korea site. (my Korean is a bit rusty, but look at those dates, looks like 2-22-08 to me)  because this will be made to vanish like soo much else does when it comes to ebay. Note 1/1301 pages.

Sellers pointed to the listings snafu as evidence that eBay was inflating its numbers to make up for losses sustained during the boycott. When the bug first emerged on Friday, the spokesman told a reporter that it was actually a planned test.

"But it wasn't a test. It ended up being a bug," he said. "So I ate a little bit of crow on that."

Ok, again, this story was something they had to change, because as we all know very well, what is stated is far, far beyond any normal test procedures used anywhere in the industry. The very idea of that is preposterous, as is changing the story so many times to begin with. They simply cannot be trusted. They were lying either once, or twice, thus far. That points to non credibility. This issue is serious, and no one should take ebay's word for anything.

Now on to the other major LIE and outright falsehood!

EBay denied that any forum deletions were intentional. If any posts were taken down "it was accidental," the spokesman said. "We're not afraid of hearing from our community and allowing them to post and discuss things and be angry on our boards."

Sorry, but I am still in slack-jawed disbelief of that statement. That is an outright lie, bourne out so many times it is a moot point to argue. Completely ridiculous!

Just the same, here is an example of censorship on ebay forums
from an episode when ebay deleted threads posted to warn users, and then left the 60K fraud auctions up for days.

Ebay heavily censors it's forums, and that has been shown all too many times. During the days after the massive T&S hack attack, the words 'credit card' were not allowed on the forums in many cases, and that paranoia on the part of ebay lasted for quite some length of time. FACT.

Puh-Leeeeze ebay, You are almost making me laugh.

What we all witnessed, via the live screenrecording (the live threads being deleted before our very eyes) and numerous reports and saved threads, is clear and convincing evidence of conscienceness of guilt.

  They pulled all  those related threads to conceal and make unavailable this very important evidence of fraud, again. ALL of them.  They did it quickly, they did it purposefully, they did it selectively.

 That would make for a very peculiar accident, striking across all the separate forums etc, all at a certain time range, during a certain related event, would it not? I can hardly wait to see the explanation of how so many accidents can happen all at once. The stars must have been aligned just right. (or something   /snicker)

Plain and simple, ebay you are busted in yet another huge lie!

Again, this outright falsehood points to non-credibility and forethought and furtherance to cover up the issue and the evidence thereof.
I have part of that thread which vanishes during the recording saved, you can see it on CAPP,

Ebay boosting total with phoney listings? L@@K

Deleted thread - Sign here as a witness of suspicious Auctions

There is more over there as well, including the LiveHelp chats and more deleted threads

And as of now, I have had time to get to some of another one I have saved.

(When I get to my other machine I will likely find complete page 2 & page 3 & update this)

"Im reporting ebay's padded listings to FTC for investigation"

page 1

page 2  short version at 43 posts

page 4

That seems to me to have been a very big mistake to delete that, rather than to perhaps respond to the thread, IF any of the stories were even close to being the truth. Again, this shows the intent to bury or destroy this info. Of course, that would have greatly benefited ebay, since complaints were to be filed against IT. Pure strongarm tactics, in the cybersense, IMO.

Now, looking at the AuctionBytes Blog article comments area, we see many curious statements. This among them:

http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y08/m03/i05/s03
''the fact that when AuctionBytes looked at one Shopping.com selling account on Saturday morning, it indicated the seller had over 80,000 listings on eBay.com.''
Ina Steiner, 05 March 2008

Congratulations. You are the only major news outlet that stated they were an eyewitness to the events of February 29th to March 1st.

Journalistic integrity requires AuctionBytes prove that claim. Post all the screen shots. Otherwise AuctionBytes must be subject to the same doubt given other similar claims.

Hesitant? Then ask your attorney's this. BIG IF this matter becomes an SEC investigation, willfully withholding data related to a POSSIBLE criminal investigation IS A FELONY. The screen shots you have are not privileged, post all of them.

And to the AuctionBytes readers, where are YOUR screen shots showing the auction counts of February 29th through March 2nd? Many said they had them, and many promised they would post them. Few have. Don't believe us? Try looking for these screen shots or web posts.

Doesn't it occur to you that the reason there is no Internet media attention, is because of the lack of hard evidence?

We showed one of our 'cards.'  Why don't you show yours?

  Let me just say that the only one's integrity in question here is ebay, and those who would attempt to threaten or intimidate a journalist, a blogger, a concerned user,  with any sort of lame, false legal threats.

This is in very bad judgment on the part of that poster, and ebay, (as 'M' appears to be speaking for ebay), to imply that anyone needs to prove ANYTHING to ebay, IMO. Reminds me of a racket. Mobsters. Goons.

Just the same, hold your cards close to your vest. File complaints with the appropriate agencies. NO ONE is under ANY obligation to prove ANYTHING to ebay.

No! Quite the other way around is more accurate.


BTW, a few of those "mystery sellers' are still showing listings right now. So maybe neither the 'test' nor the 'glitch',  'test glitch' or whatever story they come up with next, is still ongoing.

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(This one has actually increased since March 1st), from 56 to 148
Some of the others may have too. I only have so much time for this all.

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Also, another independent person has captured some of that on video, ebay busted at you tube.
Hats off to member barefootmoon79

Anyone else out there who has screencaptures of that should strongly consider making a video with your windows movie maker and posting that to youtube

More reading here:
What's going on over at eBay?
ebay Battles Powersellers, on slashdot

and again at Doc's Suspendedfromebay.com blog, & companyexposed  wrere more screencaps are archived.
You would not want to miss the coments here either


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